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Tim - for your own as you suggest just decrease your added cocoa butter by 1% and add 1% silk.

Using commercial couverture I just add the 1% at the tail end - not worrying about the additional cocoa butter. If I've put aside a little bit of dark chocolate for painting eyes on bunnies I have often added a whole lot of 1%'s when I reheat and temper over and over and sometimes end up with pretty thin chocolate! But it still works fine on the eyes!

Today I tempered a batch of bean to bar that isn't two ingredient by just adding the 1% - here's a picture of it.

Wow, it's taken a few days to go over all the info in this and the egullet threads.  This sounds like it is exactly what I'm looking for as a tempering solution. 

I'm curious now, I'm a bean to bar maker that is just starting out. Cocoa butter is added to all of my chocolate bars, largely so that it has the consistency that I like when eating and working with to mold and dip.  So from this standpoint, it sounds like if I had the eztemper I'd just subtract the cocoa butter on the front end, and add the amount subtracted in the form of silk once I'm done, so it wouldnt alter my recipe at all.

The reason I'm posting though, is the trials of using chocolate in the eztemper seems to be using the 2 ingredient bean-to-bar chocolate for the trials. Have any tests been done to use anything with a higher cocoa butter content, such as using a commercial couverture?   Based on what I've read I'm already sold, so I guess it'd be more of a trial and error sort of thing, no?

hi, have the tempering machine available!?

I can vouch for the Chocolate Covered store in San Francisco.  Jack Epstein is the owner and he seems to know everything about every bar he carries.  I travel to SF once monthly and he always seems to have a bar I haven't  tried.  If I told you what I spend on chocolate in that shop you'd have a heart attack.

The silk is indeed just cocoa butter with no additional ingredients - in a form that will provide a sufficient amount of form V crystals to almost instantly temper your chocolate. If you are making bean to bar with lecithin you would add it whenever you normally add it to your chocolate under construction. The 'silk' is added at the very end when you are ready to mold your product.

Actually, no, I didn't realize it would still pop out cleaning if it's not tempered.  Ugh!  I'll remember that next time!

Hi Andrea!  No, I have never cleaned with cotton balls, only a soft cloth.  Unfortunately, with all the breakage, I've had to wash them (only with hot water) a million times, which I've read (somewhere) is not recommended.

I'll let them set up a little longer, although I have to say that I fear shells becoming too thick.  Clearly, I'm on the wrong path right now, though!

Thank you!

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This looks similar, and they have various truffle boxes.

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Is the "silk" just cocoa butter or does it have any other ingredients? How and when would you add lecithin to the chocolate?

Hi chocolatiers,

We're looking for a tempering machine.30 or 60 liters, used or new in good condition.

I live in Honduras, but I Have This Test could reach Florida and imported it to my country!

Thank you,

hi, i need tempering machine

mi email is marianohonduras@yahoo.com.ar

It sounds like your chocolate is too thin.  Try making the chocolate shell a bit thicker.  Also, are you using cotton balls to wipe out your molds prior to use? 

Can anyone tell me why I might have 50% of my shell molds pop out beautifully, and the other 50% break within the same tray?  My thought is that because I bought these used, perhaps some cavities were cleaned out with something abrasive?  Sometimes the entire circumference breaks, sometimes just a piece at the top.  But I always get some portion of the molds that are perfect.

Generally speaking, the lower your humidity the better.  I think you'll have troubles if you're moulding in a hot (35C) room.    20C might be a bit cool, so i'd shoot for something in between personally.

I've noticed folks using it for years, it's sort of a one stop shop app for message boards on mobile devices.  I've just installed it a few weeks ago, and it does make board life easier when not at a desktop, but there must be an 'opt in' requirement from the board site itself to participate...

Potomac Chocolate:
Therein lies the reason why I've only given some thought vs. executed the idea.  With my limited space, I don't have space for a real press and I'm not sure if one of the little olive oil presses would work.

Here you go Ben - the finished product -  http://forums.egullet.org/topic/151287-eztemper-the-help-you-need-to-achieve-perfectly-tempered-chocolate-fast/?p=2030981

Ok - gotta check this out - I've figured out how the bean to bar two ingredient guys can extract their own cocoa butter easily with no special equipment.

http://forums.egullet.org/topic/151287-eztemper-the-help-you-need-to-achieve-perfectly-tempered-chocolate-fast/?p=2030981

Sebastian:

I have never heard of Tapatalk. I will take a look into it. I do know that I need to make some coding tweaks to make it usable on mobile browsers - something is messed up and I am looking into it.

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This was used for outdoor shows and farmer's markets to hold stock of candy. By placing large cold packs on bottom sheets and using battery powered small RV refrigerator fans this chest can easily be kept down to 70 degrees or below. Located in Seattle area. $500.

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Dear Clay and Sebastian, thank you for the reply. That is what I thought.

I have just ordered a 50Liter per day dehumidifier and will move it and the refiners in a 15m2 room, that will be sealed off as much as possible. I hope that will do the trick. I am not planning to aircon it, it is installed though. Lets see how low I can get the humidity.

I was also wondering about the temperer location. Which is better for moulding?

- a dehumidified room at 50%-60% humidity at 29-35C (80-95F)

or

- an aircon room at 60-75% humidity at 20C (70F)

I use a continous temperer with 2 temp zones

I am keeping ny moulds in the tempering room at 20C which might be too cold for them.

Setting of the chocolate in the moulds will have to be in the aircon room.

Thank you

Thanks Clay - That's a great idea!

I have sold the enrober and panner.The other pieces are still available.I'll post pics when I return from Portland on monday,

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                                                                             Chocofin Chocolatier

So I experimented a bit today - made some liquor from nibs in an Indian spice grinder, added water, then cooked down until it 'cracked' and the cocoa butter separated out.

I can't seem to get the pictures in order - but I ended up with around 20 grams of cocoa butter. You can see in the 3rd picture the butter starting to separate, then in the second one a little puddle of butter at around 11 o'clock. 

It could well be that as every iphone release marches boldly into a brave new technological world, i am slowly taking a step backwards until someday you'll hear me asking how to get the 12:00 to stop flashing on my iphone - but is it possible to configure the site to be readable via the tapatalk app?  I'm using it for all my other board activity, but not seeing TCL on it...

Sebastian: I was going to say the same things. I would start with getting the humidity under control to see if that helps (might need to get it down as low as 55 RH, at least that's my experience in some places). If not, then cooling things down is the next step.

Jennifer -

You can get residential chest freezers really quite inexpensively. They do require a little more thinking about how you pack stuff into them, but it's hard to beat the cost per cu ft. The Johnson controllers work with these quite well.

Hello all! I know this is a long shot, but I'm working in Quito, Ecuador right now, and my boss is looking for a used grinder/conche machine, as well as a larger-scale winnowing machine, to use in making very small batches of chocolate for his cafe. Right now he has the Premiere Wonder Grinder in use at his farm, but would like another similar machine for the cafe in Quito... if you're looking to sell one that's already in Ecuador, please message me! Or, feel free to send me a direct email at katrin2max@gmail.com, and I can put you in contact with my boss. He's willing to go several hours outside of Quito to pick up machines.

Thanks Robert!  I appreciate the feedback.

Jennifer, I'm using a Johnson temperature controller in a 3 door Continental refrigerator.  I run a temperature of 45F and the humidity is 35 with no problems

Mark - it may be worthwhile to suggest a course on cocoa microbiological food safety for the artisinal bean to bar maker.  If that emerging industry can't self regulate, the FDA will do it for them, which nobody wants.

May not be what you want to hear, but it's likely that until you condition your refining room, the problem will not go away.  It's also possible that you're not tempering sufficiently.  Could be a combination of the two.  Best to get your RH down in the sub 70% range.

I currently use an undercounter refrigerator with a Johnson temperature controller as a storage unit for my chocolate. I need more storage space and I'm wondering if anyone is doing the same, but with a full size commercial refrigerator? If so, can you tell me how well it is working for you?  How are you dealing with humidity issues?  Are there any special issues to consider?

Thank you!

Dear All,

I have been making some good chocolate on a tropical island but running into some problems with the appearance and texture  of the bars.

The bars come out dull in appearance and change texture after kept at "room" temperature (at 25-27C). they become gritty in the mouth and the fat doesnt melt so well.

I believe that the high moisture content is to blame as the liquor takes up water from he air during refining and conching. This in turn promotes sugar to absorb it and I think causes a mild siezing effect but not so much that the chocolate is not workable.

Here is a sample recipe:
45% nibs
25% butter
30% sugar

The refining room is not climate controlled and the humidity can be between 60-80%, sometimes even 90%, with temperature between 25C - 35C. I use conch refiners

The tempering room is climate controlled and using a continuous temperer with two temperature zones. The conditions in the tempering room: temp set 24 hours at 20C and humidity moves between 55-75%. The chocolate tempers ok but it always solidifies dull. I set the bars with the air blowing on them at 18-20C placed on a wire rack.

I would appreciate some suggestions regarding the problem I am having.

Happy chocolate making

Is this still available?  Where are u located?

wilma@chocolatefx.ca

Check this out -The making of cocoa butter

Not sure of the solvent though as I have no volume.

Therein lies the reason why I've only given some thought vs. executed the idea.  With my limited space, I don't have space for a real press and I'm not sure if one of the little olive oil presses would work.

Hi Mark,

In terms of panning, I am most interested in chocolate panning versus something like jelly beans. I would be very interested to learn about coloring and decoration techniques.

For candy bars, caramel and other crunchy elements would be really nice. When you say biscuit, are you referring to a shortbread or something like a kit kat? Both of those sound great to me.

Toffee is something that a lot of artisan chocolatiers sell. There is not a whole lot of information on the science of getting that perfect texture. That could be a great subject too.

Keep us posted!

Daniel

I'll look forward to hearing from you Ben!  Out of curiosity what means would you use to press cocoa butter?

It is possible to temper without seed in the Revolation machines. I do it with test batches regularly. I essentially just go through the same process I do in my Savage Bros: melt > cool to 82 > warm to working temp. As Michael says, it is not a necessarily fast process, but it can work.

Adding an EZTemper to the process would definitely make it faster and easier, of course. So much so, that I've given some thought to pressing some of the cocoa butter from a batch to use in the EZTemper and still maintain my 2-ingredient recipe.

Thank you for your areas of interest. 

Locations can be anywhere in the country.  Most have been on the east coast but typically wherever a host company offers, as long as they have the facilities and equipment to give everyone the hands on experience they are looking for.  There has been a lot of interest in offering courses in the west.  Their largest obstical has been in finding more than one or two host companies that can and are willing to do this, however these classes, being designed for the artisan rather than industry, we will be looking at culinary schools and the like, expanding the possibilities.  And depending on interest, they would try to be closer to where people live, ideally offered in more than one location.

Again, what I'm looking for here is what you would look for, what they would need to offer, how best to do it, time of course, and consider the concerns and desires of the artisan.  So all your ideas, suggestions, concerns will be a great help as we don't want to start by assuming what you would want.  Letting you tell us.

Thank you again. 

Where is that 'like' button?

I think a lot of people purchase the Revolation machines not realizing that they depend on well tempered chocolate as part of the process - and as Michael points out - that's the catch-22 of bean to bar - if you could temper your chocolate you wouldn't need the machine!